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I assume people have already asked about whether TO can be implemented as a sidebar rather than a separate window, but have not found reference to it yet. Is this a consideration?
Personally, I would find this much easier to use. But then, I am not used to having multiple windows open, but having one window with many many tabs instead. Since my recent move to Chrome from FF and Opera, am being pushed into using different windows. For what it is worth, the tab grouping functionality in Opera is the best, and I see OT as a possible way to make Chrome behave somewhat sensibly.
Solution
Real sidebars is not possible in Chrome meantime.
In past I was experimenting and do some attempts to mimic this by separate window which always follow active window, but this is work ugly and have tons of drawbacks.
Rumors says that maybe In next year Chrome team fill implement such functionality for extensions writers, yet latest trend show that actually maybe extensions is now out of favor by Google in compare to so called Chrome apps, so I think this is unlikely.
Yet must say that current logic of Tabs Outliner will not gain a lot from being in sidebar to some window, as it is show and allow operations on all windows, so it is much more logically and handy to have it as sidebar to the desktop or monitor side, not a some window.
Current implementation also has some advantages in compare to sidebar. For example it is much more convenient to resize a separate window to see longer titles than Sidebar. Other small advantages. I am a former Firefox user and as so also think that sidebars is a way to go initialy, but now I really like separate window concept for this specific case much more.
Yet when native sidebar will be available I will utilize them.
Real sidebars is not possible in Chrome meantime.
In past I was experimenting and do some attempts to mimic this by separate window which always follow active window, but this is work ugly and have tons of drawbacks.
Rumors says that maybe In next year Chrome team fill implement such functionality for extensions writers, yet latest trend show that actually maybe extensions is now out of favor by Google in compare to so called Chrome apps, so I think this is unlikely.
Yet must say that current logic of Tabs Outliner will not gain a lot from being in sidebar to some window, as it is show and allow operations on all windows, so it is much more logically and handy to have it as sidebar to the desktop or monitor side, not a some window.
Current implementation also has some advantages in compare to sidebar. For example it is much more convenient to resize a separate window to see longer titles than sidebar. Other small advantages. I am a former Firefox user and as so also think that sidebars is a way to go initialy, but now I really like separate window concept for this specific case much more.
Yet when native sidebar will be available I will utilize them.
Real sidebars is not possible in Chrome meantime.
In past I was experimenting and do some attempts to mimic this by separate window which always follow active window, but this approach works ugly and have tons of drawbacks.
Rumors says that maybe In next year Chrome team fill implement such functionality for extensions writers, yet latest trend show that actually maybe extensions is now out of favor by Google in compare to so called Chrome apps, so I think this is unlikely.
Yet must say that current logic of Tabs Outliner will not gain a lot from being in sidebar to some window, as it is show and allow operations on all windows, so it is much more logically and handy to have it as sidebar to the desktop or monitor side, not a some window.
Current implementation also has some advantages in compare to sidebar. For example it is much more convenient to resize a separate window to see longer titles than sidebar. Other small advantages. I am a former Firefox user and as so also think that sidebars is a way to go initialy, but now I really like separate window concept for this specific case much more.
Yet when native sidebar will be available I will utilize them.
Real sidebars is not possible in Chrome meantime.
In past I was experimenting and do some attempts to mimic this by separate window which always follow active window, but this approach works ugly and have tons of drawbacks.
Rumors says that maybe In next year Chrome team fill implement such functionality for extensions writers, yet latest trend show that actually maybe extensions is now out of favor by Google in compare to so called Chrome apps, so I think this is unlikely.
Yet must say that current logic of Tabs Outliner will not gain a lot from being in sidebar to some window, as it is show and allow operations on all windows, so it is much more logically and handy to have it as sidebar to the desktop or monitor side, not a some window.
Current implementation also has some advantages in compare to sidebar. For example it is much more convenient to resize a separate window to see longer titles. Other small advantages. I am a former Firefox user and as so also think that sidebars is a way to go initially, but now I really like separate window concept for this specific case much more.
Yet when native sidebar will be available I will utilize them.
Thanks for your reply. For now I guess I will just have to get better at switching windows!
The TabsOutliner button next to adressbar always bring the TO tree window to the front and scroll it to shows the current active window tabs.
You can assign shortcut on this button through:
Settings \ Extensions \ Scroll to the bottom and find "Configure commands" link
Some users report its work for them, yet personally i never utilize this shortcuts, i select TO window by mouse when i need it.
Thanks again. Clicking the TO button is probably the way I will go.
For what it is worth, I am still getting the hang of TO.
I now see how it can be used as a session manager, and as a way to group tabs on a topic together, and it has been useful in a crash once or twice already. It took me a while to work out I needed to save a window each time before I closed it (i.e. it doesn't stay saved once you double click on it). This is great, as the session is then updated with all the latest tabs. The problem is I still regularly close the window before saving - out of habit.
One thing that does puzzle me, is that when I double click a saved window in TO, all tabs appear, but sometimes only the tab shown loads. I then click on another tab, but instead of loading in place, it opens in a new window. (But not always. Haven't worked out when each situation occurs yet.). I guess this is a chrome behaviour that I have also not worked out. The tab does load in place when double clicked in the TO window. Again, habit.
As I get used to it, I think I might actually be able to retire TooManyTabs, TabGlutton, and Project Tab Manager. Session Buddy has already gone.
PS: Have you checked out Speed Dial 2. It has a sidebar - but it is a bit clunky.
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The problem is I still regularly close the window before saving - out of habit.
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Chrome "restore last closed window" to a rescue In future there will be also something more powerful.
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One thing that does puzzle me, is that when I double click a saved window in TO, all tabs appear, but sometimes only the tab shown loads. I then click on another tab, but instead of loading in place, it opens in a new window.
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Definitely looks like a bug, need to check, if you will be able to grasp a test case to reproduce this confidently give me a notice.
Tab can be loaded in a new window if it is clicked with Ctrl/Shift pressed, or by middle click. But i think this is something different. Looks more like a bug. Will check.
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As I get used to it, I think I might actually be able to retire TooManyTabs, TabGlutton, and Project Tab Manager. Session Buddy has already gone.
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Actually all of this can be used simultaneously.
As for SpeedDial sidebar, embeding such things on every page in Chrome is technically very bad idea. It is not a sidebar but simple a part of the SpeedDial UI, and it is present only on its page. The extension which would dare to embed me such thing on every page i will be uninstall right away as i found this.
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One thing that does puzzle me, is that when I double click a saved window in TO, all tabs appear, but sometimes only the tab shown loads. I then click on another tab, but instead of loading in place, it opens in a new window. (But not always. Haven't worked out when each situation occurs yet.). I guess this is a chrome behaviour that I have also not worked out. The tab does load in place when double clicked in the TO window. Again, habit.
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Cannot reproduce this problem, can your please mention your Chrome version. Also please think about that maybe some other extension is responsible for this effect? As TO must not open any tabs in normal mode by single click. Yet tabs is represented by simple HTML links. so maybe this somehow in a combination with some other extension can produce such effect.
<<< Cannot reproduce this problem >>>
I possibly shouldn't have mentioned it until I had investigated further, as I also wonder whether it is caused by one of the other extensions. Project Tab Manager seems to behave similarly.
However, since posting this, I have not been able to reproduce consistently either. This seems to definitely be an issue on my machine, rather than anything to do with OT.
I am running Chrome 23.0.1271.95 m
<<< Chrome "restore last closed window" to a rescue >>> true.
<<< Actually all of this can be used simultaneously >>> Agreed. But if it can be dealt with by one tool, then it is better. Less clutter.
It is often the case that no one tool does everything you need. OT seems to do most of what I am after in tab management.
- It 'unloads' tabs, while having the ability to re-load them (TooManyTabs)
- It allows easy navigating to any tab in any window (TabGlutton)
- It allows session management (Session Buddy, Project Tab Manager)
- It allows saved windows and tabs to be reloaded (Project Tab Manager)
- It allows very flexible modification of sessions (Project Tab Manager)
- It allows easy rearranging of tabs and windows (Chrome UI)
For what it is worth, Project Tab Manager is interesting, as it saves the 'Projects' (or sessions) as a subfolder in bookmarks. I kind of like that.
<<<As for SpeedDial sidebar>>> Fair comment. It is an ugly solution, and as you say, is only available only on its page.
Where my original query came from, is that I use AllInOneSidebar in Firefox, and have found this the most useful addon for quickly accessing all sorts of info.
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Real sidebars is not possible in Chrome meantime.
In past I was experimenting and do some attempts to mimic this by separate window which always follow active window, but this approach works ugly and have tons of drawbacks.
Rumors says that maybe In next year Chrome team fill implement such functionality for extensions writers, yet latest trend show that actually maybe extensions is now out of favor by Google in compare to so called Chrome apps, so I think this is unlikely.
Yet must say that current logic of Tabs Outliner will not gain a lot from being in sidebar to some window, as it is show and allow operations on all windows, so it is much more logically and handy to have it as sidebar to the desktop or monitor side, not a some window.
Current implementation also has some advantages in compare to sidebar. For example it is much more convenient to resize a separate window to see longer titles. Other small advantages. I am a former Firefox user and as so also think that sidebars is a way to go initially, but now I really like separate window concept for this specific case much more.
Yet when native sidebar will be available I will utilize them.